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Posted by: Stuart Wilson, November 10, 2017, 7:32am
Reading Club Torque about the entry, it says the entrant and the car need to be registered, I'm a user of the club website and forum and registered, is the car registration part of the entry process?
Posted by: Rubce, November 10, 2017, 7:47pm; Reply: 1
Hi

Another question relating to the 2018 on-line entry

A) when registering on-line on the 1st December will I have to pay the full £375 entry fee (for our crew of 3) upfront via a credit or debit card? Or is it a deposit and then the remainder paid nearer the date?

Regards

Bruce
Posted by: TedTaylor, November 14, 2017, 10:10am; Reply: 2
If the same as previous years you should be able to enter just one person (yourself) with one entry fee, and pay the additional as you add your other team members so that they can be made to pay for themselves .....!.  This is what I have done in the past but full fee as each person is entered.

After all teams can change and numbers in the car increase .......... or reduce as happened with us one year  :-/

MUT
Posted by: Tim Hunt, November 14, 2017, 11:02am; Reply: 3
We expect the entry fee (this time valid credit or debit card details) with the entry. Since, for obvious reasons, there is a minimum stipulation of two drivers, that means an initial minimum exposure of £250 up front. Until the decision was taken to make entry an on-line exercise this year everyone would have been planning to post an entry off on receipt of the November magazine, as in previous odd years and would have lined up co-driver(s) in anticipation. It is inequitable to expect the entrant to fund the whole entry fee her- or himself so the exposure should only be £125 pp. What's the problem? I am sure that for this iconic event all prospective drivers must have been budgeting this item of discretionary expenditure, it's no surprise since it comes round like clockwork every other November after all.

Tim  
Posted by: Rubce, November 14, 2017, 6:24pm; Reply: 4
Tim

I was simply asking a question as a rooky to the event :-/ For those of use with a young family coughing out a fairly large chunk of money just before Christmas is something which requires a balancing act! Hence my question.

Regards

Bruce
Posted by: Rubce, November 14, 2017, 6:26pm; Reply: 5
Hi MUT

Thanks for your helpful suggestion. I will enter two people and then add the third later next year.

Regards

Bruce
Posted by: DaveKent, November 14, 2017, 8:41pm; Reply: 6
Tim,
While this is a nice theory, in real life most people are struggling to juggle their cashflow, and parting with  upwards of £250 to secure an entry position can be quite difficult, particularly at this time of year.  As Triumph owners/enthusiasts become thinner on the ground it also gets more difficult to convince "non-believers" to commit to being co drivers so far in advance, so the owner usually has to stump up the whole entry fee, and hope that he can get a crew together in time, or maybe the crew are husband/wife and offspring where the total entry fee will come from one household's income.
Even if one has budgeted for the event, I doubt they would have thought about the 25% rise in entry fee since the previous event ( I am aware of why, and that the increase is unavoidable, so I am not having an issue with this aspect). Whilst I love the event and will continue to support it, I do think that it is unreasonable to assume that we can all afford it just because we want to do it. I would suggest that there still a fair few entrants who are doing it at the expense of something else; discretionary spend it is Tim. but it's still around £700-£800 of spend for a weekends "pleasure"
:) :)

Quoted from Tim Hunt
We expect the entry fee (this time valid credit or debit card details) with the entry. Since, for obvious reasons, there is a minimum stipulation of two drivers, that means an initial minimum exposure of £250 up front. Until the decision was taken to make entry an on-line exercise this year everyone would have been planning to post an entry off on receipt of the November magazine, as in previous odd years and would have lined up co-driver(s) in anticipation. It is inequitable to expect the entrant to fund the whole entry fee her- or himself so the exposure should only be £125 pp. What's the problem? I am sure that for this iconic event all prospective drivers must have been budgeting this item of discretionary expenditure, it's no surprise since it comes round like clockwork every other November after all.

Tim  

Posted by: timbancroft61, November 14, 2017, 9:17pm; Reply: 7
We at CT can understand that £250.00 before Xmas is not an easy amount to find, but we are caught between two stools here, bring it forward and open the event on (say) 01/11 and that would have been too early, leave until 31/01/18 and then xmas spend for many would have made finding £250 (or more) difficult.

We have to have an idea of the numbers taking part by Feb so that we can commit to some of the places that we have to hire, so anytime after the end of Jan will cause problems. E.G. Knebworth wanted 50% at the time of booking, that was back in August. I am about to book the DM venue and they will want 50%, costs are going up.

As I have previously mentioned, we moved the date of entry announcement to to a couple of weeks to ensure all CT members got a fair shake. With the old system of magazine announcement and opening of entry with the publication of the mag., those who were late getting their mag often worried (unduly) about getting a place. Also, it placed Jason under pressure, in fact for the last two RBRRs, his wife Claudia was under put under pressure as Jason works away sometimes.

Can I thank all for the positivity about the cost increase, the rise to £125 was not an easy decision to have to make, but the RBRR 2016 was not a success from a financial point of view, this made the price increase necessary.

To be honest, to be a)starting the new website and b)opening entry of the RBRR on the same day is not ideal, but we had to do something.

Some previous posters have expressed concern about the CT site crashing as many attempt to enter the RBRR at the same time on 01/12/17 at 19.00hrs. If it does, it may take 24 hours to sort, however, please do not worry as once the site is open again places will be available. Its gonna be an interesting evening!

I suppose what I am saying is please be patient with us, we are attempting to do our best.
(I should not state this, and please do not interpret as a kop out, but we CT officials are doing this in our spare time, it is a hobby, albeit a very rewarding one).
Posted by: timbancroft61, November 14, 2017, 9:20pm; Reply: 8
In answer to Stuart's question about car registration, best to sort out now. You can do this under the 'member centre section' of this site.
Posted by: kin74, November 15, 2017, 7:15am; Reply: 9
Quoted from timbancroft61

To be honest, to be a)starting the new website and b)opening entry of the RBRR on the same day is not ideal, but we had to do something.

As an IT guy, this scares me. :)
I know times are tight, but starting the website a couple of days before would allow you to fix the first bugs. Anyway, nobody will be harmed if the entries will be delayed one day or two due to some unexpected problem, so...
Posted by: timbancroft61, November 15, 2017, 7:21am; Reply: 10
Quoted from timbancroft61
In answer to Stuart's question about car registration, best to sort out now. You can do this under the 'member centre section' of this site.


Sorry, that should read 'Member's Pages'.

Is all going to be fine!

Posted by: Radders, November 15, 2017, 10:46am; Reply: 11
Quoted from timbancroft61


Sorry, that should read 'Member's Pages'.

Is all going to be fine!



it wont even let me log in with my username or password.  :'(

Posted by: timbancroft61, November 15, 2017, 10:51am; Reply: 12
Sometimes, I have found one needs to log on twice.
Posted by: Andy Flexney, November 15, 2017, 11:56am; Reply: 13
Quoted from kin74

As an IT guy, this scares me. :)
I know times are tight, but starting the website a couple of days before would allow you to fix the first bugs. Anyway, nobody will be harmed if the entries will be delayed one day or two due to some unexpected problem, so...


as an IT guy it would scare me too if this was corporate bank or some other large enterprise. But this is Club Triumph run by volunteers for club members therefore there should be much forgiveness in the air and no-one should be complaining if it all crashes. In the past everyone who wanted a place has got one so why all this constructed panic?

If it goes wrong it goes wrong as long as nobody is killed when the site crashes then everything is fine.

Andy
Posted by: Andy Flexney, November 15, 2017, 11:59am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Rubce
Hi

Another question relating to the 2018 on-line entry

A) when registering on-line on the 1st December will I have to pay the full £375 entry fee (for our crew of 3) upfront via a credit or debit card? Or is it a deposit and then the remainder paid nearer the date?

Regards

Bruce


My experience with such events is that the FULL entry fee is required with the entry form. No money, no entry. Simples  :)
Posted by: RobPearce, November 15, 2017, 12:02pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Radders
it wont even let me log in with my username or password.  :'(


It wanted my forums user name and password, not my main site one. Once I'd figured that out and waited for the change password email, it all looks quite good.
Posted by: kin74, November 15, 2017, 1:07pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Andy Flexney

If it goes wrong it goes wrong as long as nobody is killed when the site crashes then everything is fine.

That's the meaning of my last sentence.
Cheers.
Posted by: thescrapman, November 15, 2017, 1:42pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Andy Flexney


If it goes wrong it goes wrong as long as nobody is killed when the site crashes then everything is fine.



I have created an Effigy of Tim and I am going to stab it with a blunt screwdriver if the entry system crashes, well stab it gently

Posted by: Davemate, November 15, 2017, 2:48pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Radders


it wont even let me log in with my username or password.  :'(



That’s  because your naughty and your not allowed in  ;D
Posted by: Tim Hunt, November 15, 2017, 2:51pm; Reply: 19
Well said Andy! :) :)

Tim
Posted by: Radders, November 15, 2017, 2:53pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Davemate


That’s  because your naughty and your not allowed in  ;D


Very possibly.  :)  Actually, I'm registered now. (and so is the Mk1 Pi)  I wasn't putting a capital letter where I should have been :)   It's case sensitive you know.  ;)

Posted by: Radders, November 15, 2017, 2:57pm; Reply: 21
I don't think there's any need to panic. I'm sure that Tim and the team will make sure that everyone gets in anyway. Everybody did last time.

That's the beauty of using Knebworth as a start location, it can cater for a lot more entries.
Posted by: Rutty, November 15, 2017, 8:51pm; Reply: 22
Panic I am doing that.
I have no idea what my member username is let alone the password. I am also have email problems so I need to change my email address as well as I keep losing emails.

I think its time to panic with the RBRR entry getting close. :o ??)

Mark.
Posted by: Ridgetone Triumph, November 15, 2017, 9:06pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Rutty
Panic I am doing that.
I have no idea what my member username is let alone the password. I am also have email problems so I need to change my email address as well as I keep losing emails.

I think its time to panic with the RBRR entry getting close. :o ??)

Mark.


Oh no, does this mean my email to you has gone west  ??)
Posted by: Rutty, November 15, 2017, 9:22pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Ridgetone Triumph


Oh no, does this mean my email to you has gone west  ??)


No as I emailed you my new address last week.
Posted by: Horace, November 15, 2017, 10:01pm; Reply: 25
Is the password for the members pages the same as for the forum and the member centre.  if so, doesnt seem to work - page just freezes.  However i can see that my cars and their full details are on register.  Maybe cos im using an ipad?  

Bob
Posted by: Ridgetone Triumph, November 15, 2017, 10:02pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Rutty


No as I emailed you my new address last week.


(think)(think)(whistle)(whistle)(whistle)(whistle)(evil)
Posted by: TedTaylor, November 21, 2017, 11:55am; Reply: 27
Just for a test I thought I would amend our Team Woody entry so when we need to add an extra driver next year I was au fait with doing it.
Problem was ......... could not see how to do it.  

Amend car details but not add a driver.

MUT
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